Sunday, October 12, 2014

Arrow and Flash and Gotham

I am going to discuss several aspects of the show which will have spoilers in it so if you have not watched the first episode of season 3 of Arrow or any of Flash or Gotham, you might not want to read further.

Still  here. Great.

First, Arrow. Now the last thing in the third season premiere caught me off guard. Especially after meeting Caity Lotz at Dragon Con this year. I know she could not say anything but still....
Yeah. Apparently she knows her killer. The question is why she came back to Starling City. We may never know.

I suppose it makes sense since she was not portraying Dinah Lance who is supposed to be Black Canary (at least in the comics). Ted Grant (Wildcat) will be appearing later this season which means that Dinah (played by Katie Cassidy) will be getting some training in fighting later (maybe). This goes along with the comics since Wildcat did train Dinah in sparring (but when she was very young). Now Dinah can become BC not out of wanting to help but out of anger and rage.

If the series follows the comics, Arrow and BC will eventually become a couple again (He has cheated on her which is based on the comics again).

I wonder if they are ever going to call him Green Arrow instead of just Arrow. It seems as though they are moving toward changing the name of the city to Star City (like that is going to change the nature of the town and its habit of drawing terrorist attacks).


This is not your traditional Gotham (the one from the comics).
Penguin is a sympathetic character (to a degree).
Bruce Wayne is around 12-14 when he loses his parents.
Selina saw who killed Bruce's parents.
Eddie Nigma works for the police.
Bullock is a corrupt cop.
Gordon may be the only good cop on the force.
I think they have made things too hard for Gordon as he has to battle the criminals and the police without an ally (as of yet) in the police force. Montoya may become an ally later. Now she is an antagonist (especially since she wants Gordon's fiancee as well as proving Gordon is corrupt too).

All of these things separate the series from the comic. The biggest issue for me is Bruce. Having him that old when he loses his parents is a choice but it is one that can have long term consequences. Bruce losing his parents at 5 means he had about 20 years to travel and learn the skills needed to become Batman. Starting him off at 12 means he has about 10 years to travel and learn all the skills.

To me this creates the possibility he may not become Batman. Selina may not become Catwoman. Eddie may not become Riddler. Plus, this is the least supportive Alfred I have ever seen.

If it does take 10 years for Bruce to learn the needed skills to become Batman, it ties right into the last event in the first episode of the Flash. It would be the perfect time for Bruce to become Batman, especially if the skies have turned red.


The episode had a lot of little bits that Flash fans can enjoy. The cage with Grodd's name on the outside. Vibe and Killer Frost. Reverse Flash. So on and so on. The one thing that excited me (more than anything else I have seen on any of these three shows) was the newspaper headline. Flash disappears and red skies. This comes from the DC comics series "Crisis on Infinite Earths." This series came out in the late 1980's and featured some big events. (comic book spoilers ahead).

Also, having the potential Barry/Iris relationship kind of creeps me out now. In the comics it was fine. But here, having these two get together, when they grew up together like brother and sister (and yes, I know they are not biological siblings) is creepy. Have him get with Linda Park instead (since she is out there as a reporter now).

About the red skies and "Crisis." DC had a multiverse back in the 1980's (and earlier) and decided to eliminate it by combining all the worlds into one. They did this by destroying the multiple Earths and all the surviving heroes had to work together. The skies did indeed turn red and the Flash vanished (because he died). He was not the only hero to perish. Supergirl died as well. I loved reading this series and the chance to see it on TV gets my nerd flag flying. If they can actually make this happen on the Flash (with all the heroes and events of the comic book series) and do it well, it will be the greatest event on any superhero show.

Now the paper was dated 2025 and I do not think Arrow, Gotham, and Flash are all going to last that long. With Flash, whenever they wrap up the series, they can go forward to that event and show Arrow and Batman and Flash and however other many heroes there are fighting to save the Earth. If the other series end first they could even bring back those characters for 1 final event.

Also, the line "the lightning chose you" is completely true based on the comic books (before the whole new 52 thing). After dying during "Crisis", Barry Allen eventually became the lightning bolt that turned him into the Flash. The lightning bolt did indeed choose him.

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